I absolutely agree, and while my thing is software engineering, especially data architecture, coding and AI calibration, I do take an interest in other branches of engineering, and civil engineering and urban infrastructure is fascinating to me.

I don't think a lot of people realise just how a road is by no means a road. You have Catholic roads, Protestant roads, French roads, German roads, you have reactionary roads and democratic roads, the way in which it is all structured is pure philosophy.

Some roads move armies, some move food, some move people. Those people may end up at a university or a death camp, every piece of infrastructure speaks of dreams as well as nightmares, and it's all hidden in plain sight.

And I think it is sadly a thing of ignorance to assume that there are merely roads, and no roads, that there is merely infrastructure and no infrastructure. That language can only be reduced to words or silence. That there is no distinction between profanity and poetry.

I think this is how we save the world from climate change especially, by understanding that productive forces can conserve, grow and invest itself into the proliferation of the ecosystem just as well as it can destroy it. The path forward is permaculture, and collective transportation, and not just renewable energy but also diverse energy.

In fact I think that's a pretty universal engineering principle, how you always divide the stress of your invention as to make it more durable through the use of gaskets, springs, axels, or whatever the situation may call for. Even in programming this is done through multi core processors and so on.

I appreciate this discussion, I am learning a lot of fascinating things.